;;;;ECONSYS 180622 >> GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO IMPLEMENTING CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT WEBINAR NUMBER 5. I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU EACH OF YOU FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION IN TODAY'S WEBINAR. WE WILL -- AT THE END OF THE WEBINAR, WE WILL REVIEW THE COLLECTIVE RESULTS OF THE PREE TEST AND POST-TEST AS WELL AS THE SURVEY RESULTS OF THE WEBINAR SERIES. WE DO HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION TO COVER TODAY SO WE WILL GET STARTED RIGHT NOW, AND AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO JANET. THANK YOU. >> THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE TODAY, AND I'VE GOT TO TELL YOU, IT WAS SO NICE TO MEET YOU ALL IN MISSOURI A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. I FEEL LIKE I'M TALKING TO A CROWD I KNOW NOW, SO THAT'S GREAT. AND I WAS REALLY EXCITED TO HEAR ABOUT THE THINGS YOU'VE STARTED. I KNOW WE TALKED SOME ABOUT THE ASSIGNMENT, ABOUT THE HOME VISITS THAT LOTS OF YOU GOT TO DO, BUT SEVERAL OF YOU CAME UP AND TOLD ME THAT YOU'VE BEEN IMPLEMENTING OTHER PIECES OF IT AS WELL, SO THAT'S REALLY EXCITING AND WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT LATER BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY OUR TOPIC TODAY, IS IMPLEMENTING CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT. SO LET'S START, I JUST WANTED TO START WITH SOME OBJECTIVES, THAT WE HOPE TODAY WE'LL BE ABLE TO DISCUSS SOME STRATEGIES FOR GETTING CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT STARTED IN YOUR AGENCIES, AND DISCUSS SOME STRATEGIES FOR STAYING ON TRACK. AND ALSO TO LEARN FROM AN EMPLOYMENT SPECIALIST WHO RECENTLY RECEIVED SOME TRAINING AND MENTORING AROUND CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT. SO SARAH STAFFORD IS WITH US TODAY, WHO IS FROM ALBERTA, CANADA, AND SARAH WAS INVOLVED IN A THREE-YEAR PROJECT AROUND CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT. SHE'S THE -- I'LL INTRODUCE HER A LITTLE MORE LATER BUT SHE'S AN EMPLOYMENT COORDINATOR FOR BLUEL HERON EMPLOYMENT SERVICES CORPORATION, SO SHE'LL TELL YOU FROM PERSPECTIVE HOW THAT WENT. WE'RE ALSO AT THE END OF THE CALL GOING TO HEAR FROM STATE REPRESENTATIVES ON THE EMPLOYMENT FIRST STATE LEADERSHIP MENTORING TEAM ROLLING OUT IN MISSOURI. SO WITH THAT, SOME STRATEGIES FOR GETTING STARTED. LET'S START WITH THE FIRST ONE. IN TERMS OF STARTING SMALL AND LEARNING THE PROCESS, SOME PEOPLE SAY LET'S THE START SMALL AND SCALE QUICKLY, THAT COULD BE TRUE. BUT I THINK WHAT YOU REALLY WANT TO FOCUS ON FIRST IS GETTING TO KNOW THE PROCESS WELL. AND IT IS A LITTLE COMPLICATED. I MEAN, THERE'S KIND OF LOTS OF STEPS AND LOTS OF PIECES THAT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU WERE DOING BEFORE. SO WHAT I TYPICALLY DO IS ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO START WITH JUST MAYBE ONE JOB SEEKER OR MAYBE ONE OR TWO JOB SEEKERS, AND REALLY USE THE DISCOVERY STAGING RECORD AS YOUR GUIDE TO GET THROUGH DISCOVERY, AND JUST REALLY LEARN EACH STEP WELL. AND SPEND SOME TIME GETTING TO KNOW IT WELL BECAUSE IT'S LIKE WITH ANYTHING, THE FIRST TIME YOU DO IT, IT SEEMS A LITTLE AWKWARD, IT SEEMS A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE, BUT THEN AFTER YOU DO IT SEVERAL TIMES, I MEAN, IF I ASKED YOU ALL RIGHT NOW TO PICK UP YOUR PEN AND WRITE YOUR NAME WITH YOUR NON-DOMINANT HAND, IT WOULD FEEL REALLY AWKWARD, RIGHT? IF YOU'RE WRITING WITH YOUR LEFT HAND, IF YOU'RE RIGHT-HANDED OR VICE VERSA. BUT IF YOU IT EVERY DAY OR IF YOU STARTED DOING IT ALL THE TIME, IT BECOMES EASIER AND EASIER AND MORE COMFORTABLE. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IDEA IS ABOUT, STARTING REALLY SMALL SO THAT YOU CAN REALLY FOCUS AND LEARN THE PROCESS. AND ALLOW TIME TO LEARN THE PROCESS. SO THIS MIGHT TAKE SOME SUPPORT FROM YOUR AGENCIES TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS A NEW PROCESS, WE REALLY WANT TO LEARN IT WELL AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DEVOTE THAT TIME. I WOULD SAY YOU NEED TO DEVOTE AT LEAST A HALF A DAY A WEEK PER JOB SEEKER TO GET THROUGH DISCOVERY AND TO REALLY FOCUS ON THE CREATIVE JOB DEVELOPMENT. SO MAKE TIME IN YOUR SCHEDULE FOR IT. THE THIRD BULLET THERE IS TO MAKE A PLAN BUT BE FLEXIBLE. SO AT THE END OF THE ONSITE TRAINING, ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT WAS THAT TEAM CYCLE, AND IT WAS THAT CHART THAT KIND OF SHOWED IF YOU GO THROUGH DISCOVERY, THIS IS WHAT YOU MIGHT BE DOING WEEK ONE VERSUS WEEK TWO, VERSUS WEEK THREE. BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF PLANNING INVOLVED, SO SAY IN THE VERY EARLY WEEKS YOU'RE DOING THE HOME VISIT, THE NEIGHBORHOOD OBSERVATION, BUT YOU REALLY HAVE TO START THINKING ABOUT THOSE DISCOVERY ACTIVITIES AND INFORMATIONAL INTERVIEWS AND GETTING THEM ON THE SCHEDULE AHEAD OF TIME. SO A PLAN IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT, BUT YOU ALSO NEED TO BE FLEXIBLE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY PERSON, YOU KNOW, WHO HAS TO SCHEDULE THESE THINGS. YOU NEED TO SCHEDULE AROUND THE JOB SEEKER'S AVAILABILITY, SOMETIMES FAMILY MEMBERS' AVAILABILITY, EMPLOYERS' AVAILABILITY AND THEY MIGHT NOT ALL BE AVAILABLE ON THE PLAN THAT YOU SET, SO BE A LITTLE FLEXIBLE AS YOU GO. THE LAST TWO BULLETS, USE THE RESOURCES THAT YOU HAVE AVAILABLE TO YOU AND THE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE IS RECOMMENDED. WE DO A LOT OF WORK WITH PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY ON CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT, AND THE PEOPLE WHO SEEM TO DO REALLY WELL WITH IT ARE PEOPLE WHO INVEST TIME NOT ONLY IN TRAINING, TRAINING IS REALLY IMPORTANT, BUT INVEST TIME IN REALLY GETTING SOME MENTORING OR GETTING TO LEARN IT WELL. SOME STATES HAVE EVEN STARTED REQUIRING MENTORING AS PART OF THE CRITERIA FOR BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT SERVICES. I KNOW PENNSYLVANIA DID A WHOLE MENTORING MANUAL ON THAT. SO WE DID A RESOURCE LIST THAT I GAVE YOU LAST TIME. THERE'S TONS OF RESOURCES OUT THERE, AND I THINK DWAYNE WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT LATER ABOUT SOME RESOURCES IN MISSOURI. THE LAST PIECE IN TERMS OF GETTING STARTED IS TO COLLABORATE WITH OTHERS. BECAUSE WITH ANYTHING, IT'S KIND OF EASIER TO LEARN AND FUNNER TO LEARN IF WE'VE GOT SOME OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE LEARNING WITH US AND THAT WE CAN SHARE IN THE LEARNING, SHARE IN THE SETBACKS, SHARE IN THE SUCCESSES, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. SO YOU CAN FORM COMMUNITY ACTION TEAMS, WHICH MIGHT BE A GROUP OF PEOPLE INTERESTED IN LEARNING ABOUT CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT WHO MIGHT MEET REGULARLY. IT'S SIMILAR TO A COMMUNITY OF PRACTICE. COMMUNITIES OF PRACTICE ARE PEOPLE THAT GET TOGETHER, THAT SHARE A CRAFT AND PROFESSION THAT EITHER COME TOGETHER NATURALLY OR DELIBERATELY TO LEARN ABOUT WHAT IT IS THEY DO AND TO BE ABLE TO DO IT BETTER. WE ALL WANT DO A GOOD JOB AT WHAT WE DO. SOME STATES HAVE IMPLEMENTED VIRTUAL COMMUNITY OF PRACTICES. I KNOW IOWA HAS HAD ONE GOING FOR SOME TIME. IT'S MORE ON COMMUNITY EMPLOYMENT IN GENERAL, NOT SPECIFICALLY CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT, BUT A LOT OF CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT STUFF COMES UP, CALIFORNIA IS JUST STARTING A COMMUNITY OF PRACTICE AROUND CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT, AND AS WELL AS TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S OTHER LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE THAT GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE TO COLLABORATE WITH OTHERS. FOR INSTANCE, THE ACRE, THE ASSOCIATION FOR COMMUNITY REHABILITATION EDUCATORS, PROVIDES TRAINING, IT'S A 40-HOUR TRAINING LEADING TO A CERTIFICATE. SOME OF THOSE COURSES ARE AROUND COMMUNITY EMPLOYMENT, SOME HAVE AN EMPHASIS IN CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT, AND I THINK THERE WILL BE MORE BEING DEVELOPED AND AVAILABLE SOON AROUND CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT BOTH AT THE BASIC AND PROFESSIONAL LEVEL. THE RESOURCE LIST THAT WE DIDN'T REALLY GET A CHANCE TO GO OVER AT THE ONSITE TRAINING HAS SEVERAL AGENCIES/ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE RESOURCES OR HAVE TRAINING AVAILABLE AROUND CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT, AND I'M LISTING THE LEAD CENTER HERE BECAUSE OFTEN THE LEAD CENTER KIND OF HELPS ADVERTISE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THOSE OTHER AGENCIES ARE DOING. SO IT'S A REALLY GREAT RESOURCE ON A NUMBER OF TOPICS, NOT JUST CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT, BUT IF YOU GO TO THEIR WEBSITE, THERE IS A SPECIFIC LINK ON CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT THAT CAPTURES A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT'S OUT THERE IN THE FIELD THAT CAN HELP YOU WITH COLLABORATING. YOU CAN GET ON THEIR WEBSITE SO THEY'LL SEND YOU UPDATES. THE LAST BULLET IN TERMS OF ENSURING SUPPORT AT ALL LEVELS, WHAT WE FIND IS AS PEOPLE IMPLEMENT CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT THE, THAT REALLY YOU NEED TO HAVE EVERYBODY ON BOARD, THE CEO OR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, BOARD MEMBERS, MID LEVEL MANAGEMENT, EMPLOYMENT SPECIALISTS, THEY ALL NEED TO UNDERSTAND AND SUPPORT CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT BECAUSE THE EMPLOYMENT SPECIALISTS OUT THERE WORKING TO GET PEOPLE JOBS, YOU'VE GOT MANAGEMENT SAYING WHY ARE YOU TAKING SO MUCH TIME TO DO DISCOVERY OR WHY ARE YOU GOING OUT AND DOING THESE ACTIVITIES? IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE JUST HANGING OUT WITH PEOPLE. BUT THEY NEED TO REALIZE THAT YOU'RE HANGING OUT WITH INTENT, THAT THERE'S THINGS THAT YOU'RE LEARNING FROM THAT. SO GETTING EVERYBODY ON BOARD IS REAL IMPORTANT. SO THE MORE THAT YOU CAN SHARE INFORMATION, MAYBE HELP INVITE PEOPLE TO TRAINING EVENTS OR MAKING THEM AWARE OF TRAINING EVENTS TO SHARE YOUR SUCCESS STORIES AND TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND WHY. OBVIOUSLY THERE NEEDS TO BE CHANGES IN POLICY AND FUNDING AND STAFFING PATTERNS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, AND I THINK RIGHT NOW, EVERYBODY'S CHANGING AT ONCE, YOU KNOW? PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO IMPLEMENT CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT, AT THE SAME TIME YOUR STATE AGENCIES ARE LOOKING AT POLICIES AND FUNDING AND HOW THAT HAPPENS. BUT I THINK YOU JUST NEED TO START. THINGS WILL LINE UP AS YOU GO. STATE AGENCIES NEED TO HEAR FROM YOU WHAT YOU NEED TO SUPPORT THAT CHANGE. ALSO YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE PROCESS WE USE FOR HELPING JOB SEEKERS AND FAMILY MEMBERS UNDERSTAND CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT. IT'S VERY OFTEN I HEAR LIKE, OH, YOU KNOW, SO-AND-SO'S FAMILY DOESN'T REALLY WANT US TO COME INTO THEIR HOME. AND THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PERFECTLY LEGITIMATE IF PEOPLE DON'T WANT YOU TO COME INTO THEIR HOME, BUT SOMETIMES I THINK IT'S MORE ABOUT HOW WE PRESENT THE INFORMATION, BECAUSE IF SOMEBODY ASKS ME TO COME INTO MY HOME, I'D BE A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT THAT TOO OR I'D BE THINKING, OH, GEE, I HAVE TO CLEAN THE HOUSE OR THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT IF YOU START BY REALLY EXPLAINING THE PROCESS WELL AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND WHY, I THINK IT HELPS FAMILY MEMBERS UNDERSTAND AS WELL. STAYING ON TRACK. SOME OF THE THINGS WE CAN DO TO HELP STAY ON TRACK AS WE GO ARE TO FIRST IMPLEMENT CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT WITH FIDELITY. IF WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, LET'S DO IT RIGHT. BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT'S EASY TO GET OFF TRACK OR IT'S EASY TO USE PIECES BUT NOT THE WHOLE PROCESS. AND NOT THAT THAT'S A BAD THING NECESSARILY, BUT IF YOU SAY WE'RE DOING CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT, LET'S KIND OF STICK WITH THE FIDELITY. WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS PROBABLY AD NAUSEAM AT THIS POINT, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REALLY DOING THE KEY COMPONENTS OF IT, AND AGAIN, YOU'VE HAD LOTS OF RESOURCES THERE THAT ARE ESSENTIAL ELEMENTS FOR CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT IS GOING TO BE A REALLY GOOD TOOL. THE STAGING RECORD IS A GOOD GUIDE BECAUSE IT HELPS YOU NOT ONLY RECORD THE INFORMATION BUT IT HELPS GUIDE YOU TO THE NEXT STEPS. I MENTIONED EARLIER THE DISCOVERY FIDELITY SCALE IS UNDER DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT WILL BE ANOTHER TOOL YOU HAVE TO KIND OF STAY ON TRACK. THEN I WOULD AS AN AGENCY TOO SET SOME GOALS, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, I WORKED WITH SOME AGENCIES THAT REALLY HAVE CLEAR EXPECTATIONS ABOUT THE LENGTH OF TIME TO COMPLETE DISCOVERY. BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT DISCOVERY GOING ON FOREVER AND EVER. WE WANT TO GET TO JOB DEVELOPMENT. SO TYPICALLY WE SAY SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS IS A GOOD LENGTH OF TIME FOR DISCOVERY, BUT I'M GUESSING THE FIRST TIME YOU GO THROUGH IT, IT'S GOING TO TAKE LONGER. OR MAYBE THE FIRST FEW TIMES, IT'S GOING TO TAKE LONGER. SO THAT'S WHERE I COME BACK TO THAT START SMALL AND LEARN THE PROCESS WELL. ONCE YOU KIND OF LEARN THE PROCESS, THINGS WILL SPEED UP NATURALLY. SOMETIMES FUNDING AGENCIES KIND OF SET GOALS FOR US, LIKE MAYBE, YOU KNOW, FUNDERS MIGHT SAY WE REALLY EXPECT TO SEE JOB PLACEMENT WITHIN 60 DAYS OF FINISHING DISCOVERY, OR SOME STANDARDS LIKE THAT. BUT I THINK EVEN IF FUNDERS DON'T HAVE THOSE KIND OF REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU SHOULD SET SOME GOALS FOR UR SO THAT YOU'RE YOURSELF SO YOU HAVE A VERY FOCUSED ACTION-ORIENTED PROCESS. THEN AS AN AGENCY, WE ALSO RECOMMEND DOING A PERIODIC REVIEW. MAYBE IT'S QUARTERLY, MAYBE MONTHLY, TO LOOK AT REALLY HOW YOU'RE DOING. HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WE REALLY USING THIS APPROACH WITH, HOW IS IT GOING, ARE WE GETTING PEOPLE THROUGH DISCOVERY IN A TIMELY FASHION, ARE WE GETTING TO JOB PLACEMENT, IS THAT HAPPENING. SO REALLY SET SOME GOALS FOR YOURSELF AND SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO REVIEW THOSE GOALS. SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO SARAH AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SARAH FIRST. SHE'S WITH BLUEL HERON SUPPORT SERVICES ASSOCIATION IN ALBERTA, CANADA, AND I HAD THE PLEASURE OF GETTING TO BE THE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE PERSON THAT GOT TO WORK WITH SARAH OVER A PERIOD OF THREE YEARS. SO IT WAS A REALLY, REALLY INCREDIBLE PROJECT. AND SARAH IS NOT ONLY THE EMPLOYMENT COORDINATOR FOR BLUEL HERON SUPPORT SERVICES, BUT SHE WAS ALSO ON THE STEERING COMMITTEE FOR THE PROJECT, AND SHE'S SOMEBODY THAT IS JUST REALLY, REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT EMPLOYMENT, AND EVEN THOUGH THE PROJECT IS OVER, SHE'S CONTINUING TO DO EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT WORK IN HER COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS REALLY TAKING CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT STATE-WIDE. SHE'S BEEN A REAL PERSON TO SPEARHEAD HOW WE CAN CONTINUE TO GROW CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT THROUGHOUT ALBERTA. SO I'M GOING TO DRAG THIS OVER AND I'M GOING TO HAND THE MICROPHONE OVER TO SARAH. I HOPE THIS WORKS. OKAY, SARAH. >> THANKS, JANET. HI, EVERYONE. CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? JANET, YOU HAVE TO MUTE YOUR MIC. THAT'S BETTER. I'M NOT GETTING FEEDBACK ANYMORE. ANYWAY, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL SUNNY DAY UP HERE, SO AS JANET MENTIONED, MY NAME IS SARAH STAFFORD. I'M THE EMPLOYMENT COORDINATOR HERE AT BLUEL HERON SUPPORT SERVICES. I GRADUATED BOW VALLEY COLLEGE, I HAVE MY DIPLOMA IN DISABILITY STUDIES. I'VE WORKED IN THE FIELD FOR 14 YEARS. I'VE WITNESSED COUNTLESS TIMES OVER AND OVER AGAIN HOW THE IMPACT OF THE RIGHT EMPLOYMENT CAN IMPACT SOMEONE'S LIFE. SO, LET'S KEEP GOING HERE. SO WHEN I WAS TAKING THIS TRAINING, ONE THING THAT I LOVED WAS THAT IT WAS ALL ABOUT FINDING THE RIGHT FIT FOR THE INDIVIDUAL. IT WASN'T ABOUT FINDING A JOB AN THEN TRYING TO FIT THE INDIVIDUAL INTO THAT JOB. WE REALLY WENT THROUGH THE DISCOVERY PROCESS. ALL THE ACTIVITIES THAT WERE IN THE FOUR DAYS CLASSROOM TRAINING WERE REALLY INTERACTIVE AND REALLY RELEVANT TO WHAT I WOULD BE DOING LATER ON, WORKING WITH THE INDIVIDUALS THROUGH THE PROCESS. SO I'D NEVER GOTTEN TO THE POINT I AM, THOUGH, WITH CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT IF I DIDN'T HAVE THAT TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TRAINING. THAT'S DEFINITELY WHAT MADE IT STICK. OFTEN I'D GO TO A CLASS AND THAT BOOK THAT I'D GET FROM THE CLASS OR THE HANDOUTS OR WHATEVER THAT I WOULD GET WOULD JUST GO ON TO THE SHELF BECAUSE I REALLY DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO START. SO WITH HAVING JANET AND THE OTHER PERSON THAT WAS UP WITH THE PROJECT WAS RUSSELL. HAVING THEM COME OUT AND REALLY WORK WITH US OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS HAS BEEN JUST AMAZING. THE REASON THAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE THIS PROCESS WORKING SO WELL WAS BECAUSE OF THOSE TWO COMING OUT AND HELPING ME, AND NOW WE HAVE PEOPLE ASKING FOR THE CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT PROCESS BECAUSE THE INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN FINDING AMAZING JOBS. SOME JOBS ARE IN THE DIRT DUST AND DISHES KIND OF AREA, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, A LOT OF THEM ARE OUTSIDE THE DIRT, DUST AND DISHES, WHICH IS REALLY COOL. THE ONE LADY THAT I WORK WITH, HER NAME WAS ELIZABETH, AND SHE REALLY LIKED WORKING READING AND WRITING, SHE WAS PASSIONATE ABOUT IT AND SHE'S ALWAYS WANTED A JOB WITH KIDS, SO WE REALLY WERE WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS AND WE FOUND HER A JOB AT THE SCHOOL AS A T.A., AND SHE'S BEEN DOING FANTASTIC. SHE'S JUST CURRENTLY GOT THE WORD THAT SHE'S GOING TO HAVE A PERMANENT JOB THERE IN THE FALL AND CONTINUE TO LEARN AND GROW THAT POSITION THERE, WHICH IS REALLY EXCITING. THIS QUOTE IS ONE THING THAT I HAVE UP ON MY WALL. AND I CONSTANTLY REMIND MYSELF. A GUARDIAN OF AN INDIVIDUAL THAT I WORK WITH STATED THIS TO ME, AND IT PROVED TO BE TRUE TIME AND TIME AGAIN, ESPECIALLY AROUND EMPLOYMENT. GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHINE, THE INDIVIDUAL WILL BLOW YOU AWAY ON WHAT THEY CAN DO, AND SOMETIMES THIS IS HARD, AT LEAST I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY DON'T GET -- OR FAIL, BUT FOLLOWING THE PROCESS COMPLETELY THROUGH, YOU'RE SETTING THEM UP FOR SUCCESS. SO BEFORE CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT, WE WERE REALLY GUESSING AND HOPING TO FIND RIGHT JOB. WHILE RESUMEEÉS ARE GREAT, IT'S NOT THE THING FINDING THE JOB, IT'S THE CONNECTION, THE PERSONAL CONNECTION THAT ALLOWS EMPLOYERS TO COMPARE PEOPLE MORE ON PAPER, AND ON THE RIGHT, IT REALLY SHOWS THE EMPLOYER AND HELPS US BUILD CONNECTIONS, THOSE PERSONAL CONNECTIONS. SO ON THE LEFT, WE'RE GUESSING, BUT ON THE RIGHT -- I REALLY LIKE TO USE FACTS, AND I THINK THE EMPLOYERS THAT I'VE WORKED WITH OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS REALLY LIKE KNOWING THOSE FACTS. AND IF I CAN GO INTO THEM, GO WITH AN INDIVIDUAL AND TALK TO THEM AND MAYBE DO AN EMPLOYMENT PROPOSAL, WHEN I HAVE THOSE FACTS, AN EMPLOYER IS ALWAYS LOOKING IF A NEED CAN BE MET. SO THERE ARE SOME ROAD BLOCKS THAT I'VE COME UP AGAINST. MYSELF BEING ONE OF THEM. I THINK I'M A VERY OPEN MINDED PERSON, BUT WHEN I STARTED THIS PROCESS, I DO REALIZE THAT I WAS PUTTING LIMITS ON WHAT'S POSSIBLE. I DID NOT THINK THAT I WAS THIS PERSON BECAUSE I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT EMPLOYMENT IS TO PEOPLE. MY CO-WORKERS, AGAIN, THEY WERE PUTTING THE SAME LIMITS ON WHAT WAS POSSIBLE. SOMETIMES WE THINK WE NEED TO PROTECT SOMEONE, BUT THIS ISN'T THE CASE. LET THEM SHOW US WHAT THEY CAN DO, AND WE'LL BE AMAZED. THIS IS WHY C.E. IS SO IMPORTANT. AND IT'S THE EMPLOYERS AS WELL. IT WASN'T -- ROADBLOCKS AT THE BEGINNING, MAINLY BECAUSE OF LINGO, I'D SAY I'M COMING TO DO AN INFORMATIONAL INTERVIEW WITH YOU. THEY'LL BE LIKE, OH, WELL, I'M NOT HIRING. I SAID NO, I WANT TO INFORMATION SEEK. THE INDIVIDUAL I'M WORKING WITH IS REALLY INTERESTED IN THIS AREA AND WE JUST WANT TO COME AND ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS. AND WHAT I LEARNED IS, AN EMPLOYER -- OR THE MANAGER OR THE BUSINESS OWNER, THAT'S THE WORD I WANT, IS ALWAYS WILLING TO TELL YOU ABOUT THEIR BU BUSINESS. THEY WANT TO SHOW OFF THEIR BUSINESS AND YOU CAN REALLY USE THAT TO YOUR ADVANTAGE. I ALSO CAME UP WITH A FEW THINGS ABOUT OVERCOMING ROAD BLOCKS. BELIEVE, TRUST AND FOLLOW THE PROCESS. THIS IS TRUE EVERY TIME I HIT A WALL, IT'S BECAUSE I'M STARTING TO VEER OFF THE PROCESS. SO I GO BACK TO MY DISCOVERY STAGING RECORD AND REALLY LOOK AT WHERE I'M AT, THAT REALLY HELPS ME MOVE FORWARD. KEEP AN OPEN MIND, THIS IS HUGE. POSSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS. YOU JUST HAVE TO FIND THE RIGHT ONE. DON'T LET FEAR HOLE YOU BACK. THIS IS SOMETHING I STRUGGLE WITH BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SEE THE INDIVIDUAL I'M WORKING WITH FAIL OR SOMETIMES I THINK, OH, WELL, THEY WON'T ACCEPT THEM THERE. BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE. I DON'T KNOW IF JANET SHARED WITH YOU REJECTION THERAPY VIDEO, BUT I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT. IT'S A TED TALK. YOU CAN WATCH IT ON YOUTUBE. IT'S AMAZING. FIND ALLIES, ONE PERSON AT A TIME. THE MORE YOU'RE OUT THERE DOING CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT, THE MORE ALLIES YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE, AND THOSE ALLIES ARE GOING TO DO SOME OF THE WORK FOR YOU BECAUSE EMPLOYERS DO TALK. A FEW OF THE OPPORTUNITIES HAVE COME BECAUSE OF THE ALLIES THAT I HAVE AROUND THEM. AND LET'S THE RESULTS ADVERTISE FOR YOU. SO WHEN SOMEONE SAYS THEY CAN'T DO THAT, REALLY ASK WHY OR WHY NOT. THERE'S A FELLOW THAT I WORKED WITH THAT REALLY WANTED TO HAVE HIS OWN BUSINESS, LAWN CARE BUSINESS, SNOW REMOVAL BUSINESS, AND HE WANTED TO HAVE A TRUCK. SO WE STARTED TO ASK HIS GUARDIAN IF HE COULD GET HIS LICENSE IN, THEY'RE LIKE, NO OH. BUT THAT DIDN'T MEAN THAT WE QUASHED HIS DREAM ABOUT GETTING A TRUCK. SO HE BOUGHT HIS TRUCK, HE INSURED HIS TRUCK, HE IS GROWING HIS BUSINESS. HE JUST HAS SOMEONE THAT DRIVES IT FOR HIM. AND THIS YEAR, HE'S GETTING SO MUCH BUSINESS THAT HE HAS HIRED ANOTHER PERSON TO HELP HIM, AND THAT PERSON ACTUALLY CAN DRIVE. SO IT'S BEEN A REALLY GOOD MATCHUP. ANY TIME YOU HIT A ROADBLOCK, LOOK AT IT FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE. HOW DO YOU GET AROUND THAT ROADBLOCK? SO JANET KIND OF TOLD ME SHE SHARED WAYNE'S STORY A LITTLE BIT WITH YOU GUYS. WAYNE WAS THE VERY FIRST PERSON THAT I WENT THROUGH THE CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT PROCESS WITH, AND SO HE IS THE ONE THAT I LIKE TO SHARE ABOUT BECAUSE I THINK HIS STORY IS KIND OF COOL. WAYNE WAS REALLY OVERLOOKED. NO ONE REALLY GAVE HIM A LOT OF ATTENTION. AND I STARTED WORKING WITH HIM AND THEN I STARTED WORKING THROUGH THE CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT PROCESS WITH HIM. WAS IT AN ADVANTAGE THAT I WORKED WITH HIM FOR A WHILE? NOT REALLY, BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT I DIDN'T NEED TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS PROPERLY, BUT I FOUND IT VERY IMPORTANT TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS BECAUSE OF THE INFORMATION THAT I FOUND. THERE WERE THINGS THAT I FOUND OUT ABOUT WAYNE THAT I WOULD HAVE NEVER FOUND OUT UNLESS I WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS. SO I THOUGHT I'D JUST SHARE, WAYNE IS ACTUALLY KIND OF NON-VERBAL. HE HAS A HARD TIME SPEAKING. AND OFTEN WHEN I ASK HIM WHAT HE WOULD WANT TO DO FOR A JOB, THIS WAS BEFORE CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT, HE WOULD TELL ME THAT HE CLEANS. AND SO OFTEN I FIND THE INDIVIDUALS THAT I WORK WITH WILL GIVE ME THAT ANSWER, SO AGAIN, I CAN'T STRESS ENOUGH HOW IMPORTANT FOLLOWING THE PROCESS IS. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAYNE HAS AT HOME IS A HUGE MOVIE COLLECTION. LIKE HUNDREDS OF MOVIES. SO I THOUGHT, HOW CAN I USE THIS TO HELP ME FIGURE OUT WHAT WAYNE LIKES AND WHAT HIS DISLIKES ARE. AND SINCE HE LIKES MOVIES, A COUPLE THINGS I LEARNED FROM THAT, HE HAS AN AMAZING MEMORY. EVERY SINGLE MOVIE HE TOOK DOWN, HE PUT BACK IN THE SAME SPOT AFTERWARDS. BUT THE MOVIES THAT HE PICKED, I LEARNED ABOUT HIM THAT HE LIKES ANIMALS, HE LIKES HELPING PEOPLE, HE LIKES AN ADRENALINE RUSH, LIKES TO BE SCARED, AND REMEMBERS WHERE THINGS GO. I ALREADY MENTIONED THAT. SO THIS WAS REALLY GOOD. HE DEFINITELY LIKED -- ALSO LIKED COOKING, HE IS A REALLY GOOD COOK, BUT FOOD WAS KIND OF A BARRIER FOR HIM BECAUSE HE KIND OF GOT FOCUSED ON IT, SO WE KIND OF DECIDED TO STAY AWAY FROM THAT AND I THINK WE WERE QUITE SUCCESSFUL. SO THE THEMES THAT STARTED EMERGE FROM ALL THE DI COVER RETHAT WE DID WERE NATURE, HELPING PEOPLE, AND ADRENALINE. THE MORE THAT I GOT TO KNOW WAYNE AND THE MORE ACTIVITIES THAT WE WERE DOING THROUGH DISCOVERY, HE REALLY DID LIKE AN ADRENALINE RUSH. HE'S THE BIGGEST PRANKSTER THAT YOU WOULD EVER FIND. HE LIKES TO PULL PRANKS ON PEOPLE, HE LOVES TO SCARE THEM. BUT THEN HE LIKES TO HELP PEOPLE TOO. HE'S ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE TO COME OUT AND IF YOU'RE TURNING SOMETHING IN, HE'LL COME OUT AND CARRY IT IN. REALLY IMPORTANT, TAKE LOTS OF PICTURES. ESPECIALLY FOR WAYNE, IT WAS HIS WAY OF BEING ABLE TO SHARE HIS STORY WITH OTHERS. BUT IT'S ALSO USEFUL FOR PORTFOLIOS, EMPLOYER PROPOSALS. ACTUALLY DONE QUITE A FEW EMPLOYER PROPOSALS, AND I PUT A LITTLE PICTURE OF THE PERSON ON THEM SO THEY REMEMBER THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PERSON. AND THE BENEFIT THAT THIS PERSON CAN HAVE ON THEIR BUSINESS. I ALSO SHARED WAYNE'S STORY QUITE A BIT AT -- BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A GREAT STORY. ELIZABETH IS WORKING AT THE SCHOOL. I DON'T HAVE AS MANY PICTURES OF HER, BUT I'M GOING TO GO IN AND GET SOME JUST SO THAT SHE, TOO, CAN SHARE HER STORY AND OTHER PEOPLE CAN LEARN OF THE SUCCESS THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING HERE. SO ONE THING THAT I FOUND OUT ABOUT WAYNE, HE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A LOT OF FAMILY CONNECTIONS, AND THAT'S WHY BECOMING PART OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS SO GREAT. SO WE ACTUALLY DID A COUPLE INFORMATIONAL INTERVIEWS, SO WE WENT TO THE EMS STATION AND THERE WAS NOTHING REALLY THERE, AND WE WENT TO THE FIRE HALL AND THE FIRE CHIEF JOHN, HE JUST -- HE COULD HAVE TALKED ALL AFTERNOON. HE WAS SO PASSIONATE ABOUT HIS JOB. AND AT THE END, HE REALLY SAID, YOU KNOW, WAYNE, IF YOU THINK THIS IS SOMETHING FOR YOU, WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU HERE. AND WAYNE WENT AWAY FOR A WEEK OR TWO AND THOUGHT THE ABOUT IT, AND HE CAME UP TO ME AND HE'S LIKE, SARAH, I WANT TO BE A FIREFIGHTER. AND SO I'M LIKE, OKAY, LET'S GO BACK AND TALK TO JOHN. SO WAYNE BECAME A FIREFIGHTER, AND WHEN HE DID, HE KIND OF GOT THIS FAMILY. IT'S LIKE A BROTHERHOOD UP THERE. THEY REALLY TOOK HIM UNDER THEIR WING. I GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTERVIEW JOHN FOR A PROJECT THAT I WAS DOING AND I WAS ABLE TO ASK HIM SOME QUESTIONS, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY STOOD OUT ABOUT THAT INTERVIEW WAS HE SAID, SARAH, AS MUCH AS WE'VE GIVEN TO WAYNE, WAYNE HAS GIVEN BACK TO US. THE GUYS ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT REALLY DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO COMMUNICATE WITH SOMEONE THAT HAD A DISABILITY. THEY WERE ALWAYS KIND OF WORRIED ABOUT WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO SAY, HOW THEY SHOULD ACT, BUT HAVING WAYNE ON THE TEAM REALLY CHANGED THAT DYNAMIC. AND THE GUYS HAVE GOTTEN A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE DEALING WITH PEOPLE THAT HAVE A DISABILITY WHEN THEY GET CALLED OUT ON CALLS. SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS PRETTY AMAZING. TO HEAR THAT. AND IT GOES TO SHOW THE IMPACT THAT SOMEONE CAN HAVE IN A WORKPLACE. HERE'S A COUPLE GREAT PICTURES OF WAYNE JUST IN ACTION. YOU KNOW, SINCE HE'S BEEN ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, I CAN'T BELIEVE JOHN DID THIS BUT HE'S ALLOWED WAYNE TO GO OUT AND START FIRES FOR PRACTICE NIGHTS. HE'S GOTTEN TO GO OUT ON FIRE CALS. NOW WAYNE NEVER GOES INTO THE BUILDINGS, BUT HE'S OUT THERE HELPING WITH EVERYTHING ELSE. HE COULD BE GETTING THE WATER FOR SOME GUYS, HELPING MAYBE SOME OF THE KIDS THAT ARE SCARED, JUST BEING THAT PERSON THERE IF YOU NEED SOMETHING, HE'LL HELP YOU. SO WAYNE OFTEN COMPLAINED THAT HE HAD A REALLY BAD HIP. AND SO HE WAS A PRETTY BIG GUY. HE LOST 80 POUNDS SINCE HE STARTED AT THE FIRE HALL. HE NO LONGER HAS HIP TROUBLE. HIS CONFIDENCE HAS GROWN. I SUPPORTED HIM AT THE WORKPLACE FOR A LITTLE WHILE, AND WE WERE IN THE MEETING AND EVERYBODY HAD TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND I WAS REALLY WORRIED THAT WAYNE WASN'T GOING TO INTRODUCE HIMSELF. SORRY, I'VE GOT TO TAKE A DRINK. SO I WAS THINKING ABOUT SNEAKING UP THERE TO PUMP HIM, AND I'M LIKE, NO, WAYNE CAN DO THIS. AND SURE ENOUGH, WHEN IT CAME TO WAYNE, HE STOOD UP AND WITH A LOUD VOICE, HE GOES, I'M WAYNE AND I'M A FIREFIGHTER AND SAT DOWN. IT WAS JUST SO GREAT TO SEE. SO HE'S ONLY NATURALLY SUPPORTED ON THE WORKPLACE 80% OF THE TIME, WE GO UP THERE AND WE HELP HIM LEARN HIS NEW TASKS. HE'S TAKEN PEOPLE FIRST AID, HE'S EVEN HELPED A FRIEND THAT WAS CHOKING IN A RESTAURANT. THE FRIEND STARTED CHOKING WENT TO THE BATHROOM, AND WAYNE FOLLOWED, AND THE DOOR LOCKED BEHIND AND IT WAS ONE OF THOSE STALLS THAT WAYNE WAS ABLE TO CRAWL UNDERNEATH AND OPEN THE DOOR SO HE COULD GET MORE HELP TO THAT INDIVIDUAL. SO I'VE BEEN PRIVILEGED TO BE ABLE TO GO AND SPREAD THE WORD ABOUT CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT THROUGH CONFERENCE PRESENTATIONS. I'VE BEEN ABLE TO GO DOWN TO RENDEZVOUS, WHICH HAS BEEN GREAT TO MEET OTHER PEOPLE DOING CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT AND HEARING THEIR SUCCESS STORIES. ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS FOR ME IS HEARING THOSE SUCCESS STORIES AND THOSE UNIQUE OPPORTUNITIES THAT PEOPLE HAVE FOUND. IT JUST SPURS ME ON TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX AND MAKE EVEN THOSE CONNECTIONS WHEN DOWN AT RENDEZVOUS THAT I CAN CALL UPON LATER TO CHAT WITH. I'VE BEEN OUT TALKING WITH GOVERNMENT PEOPLE OR GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS. AND WE'VE STARTED WORKING WITH SPECIFIC GROUPS LIKE THE FETAL ALCOHOL SYNDROME DISORDER GROUP, SCHOOL DISTRICTS, INCLUSION, AND ALBERTA COUNCIL FOR DISABILITY SERVICES. IT'S A GREAT PROJECT, AND WE'VE HAD A TON OF SUCCESS, AND IT'S THE ONE THING THAT I CAN SAY TO YOU GUYS IS TO REALLY FOLLOW THE PROCESS AND TO TAP IN TO SOME TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE IF YOU CAN. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S PART OF YOUR PLAN OR NOT, BUT THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING THAT I REALLY FOUND USEFUL, WAS BEING ABLE TO HAVE THAT PERSON COME UP AND MENTOR ME THROUGH THE PROCESS. I WOULD HAVE NEVER GOTTEN TO THE PLACE THAT I AM AT CURRENTLY WITHOUT THAT HELP BECAUSE THAT BOOK MIGHT HAVE STAYED ON MY SHELF FOR A WHILE AND THEN I WOULD HAVE JUST FORGOTTEN ABOUT IT AND JUST WENT BACK TO THE OLD WAYS OF DOING THINGS. I'M GOING TO TRY AND SEND THIS BACK TO JANET NOW. >> THANK YOU, SARAH, THANKS FOR ALL YOUR ADVICE AND YOUR WORDS AND I'VE GOT TO SAY, SARAH HAS JUST BEEN SUCH AN INCREDIBLE, INCREDIBLE SUPPORTER OF CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT AND HAS -- I MEAN, WAYNE IS A GREAT EXAMPLE, BUT SHE'S GOT DOZENS OF GREAT EXAMPLES THERE. SHE'S JUST GONE CRAZY WITH IT. IT'S GREAT. SO WITH THAT, WE'D LIKE TO FLIP NOW TO TALK ABOUT THE STATE AGENCY PERSPECTIVES ON IMPLEMENTING CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT. BECAUSE THIS IS -- YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAY, WE NEED TO FOCUS ON ALL DIFFERENT LEVELS AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL HAVE THE SUPPORT YOU NEED TO IMPLEMENT CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT, SO I THINK WE'RE GOING TO START WITH DWAYNE, AND I DON'T SEE DWAYNE'S NAME ON HERE SO I'M THINKING HE'S WITH YOU, HEIKE. >> YES. >> OKAY. I'LL PASS TO YOU. >> OKAY. FOR EACH OF THE STATE LEADS THAT ARE ON, WHAT WE WILL DO IS WE WILL PRESENT THE ORDER IN WHICH JANET HAS IT ON THE SLIDE, AND WE WILL UNMUTE EACH OF YOU AS WE'RE READY TO TURN IT OVER TO YOU. THE OTHER THING I WOULD ADD ALSO FOR PARTICIPANTS, IF YOU DO HAVE QUESTIONS FOR SARAH OR ANY ONE OF US AT THE STATE AGENCIES OR JANET, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO USE THE Q & A BOX, BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO HAVE PLENTY OF DISCUSSION TOWARDS THE END OF TODAY'S WEBINAR, AND WE'LL BE ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS THROUGH THE Q & A BOX. SO WITH THE DIVISION OF DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES, WE DEFINITELY SEE CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT AS THE NATIONAL BEST PRACTICE AND THE PREFERRED IMPLEMENTATION OF EACH OF OUR WAIVER SERVICE DEFINITIONS. THROUGH THE DIVISION OF DD, WE DO HAVE CAREER PLANNING WHERE DISCOVERY CAN BE COMPLETED AT. WE ALSO HAVE PRE-VOCATIONAL SERVICES WHERE DISCOVERY COULD BE OCCURRING AT, AND THEN WE HAVE JOB DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WHERE INDIVIDUALS COULD BE DOING NEGOTIATED HIRES AS WELL, AND THEN DEFINITIVELY ON THE JOB, THROUGH OUR SUPPORT EMPLOYMENT SERVICES, WOULD BE WHERE THE PLACEMENT SUPPORTS OCCUR AT AND THEN FOSTERING THE DEVELOPMENT OF NATURAL SUPPORTS, AND SO WE HAVE MADE AN INVESTMENT AS THE DIVISION WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF MASSACHUSETTS-BOSTON, THE INSTITUTE OF COMMUNITY INCLUSION, WHERE WE HAVE HIRED TWO TRAINING ASSOCIATES TO WORK IN MISSOURI THE NEXT THREE TO FIVE YEARS WITH PROVIDERS WHO ARE CONTRACTORS OF THE DIVISION OF DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES TO ASSIST WITH IMPLEMENTATION OF PROGRAM DESIGN AND BEST PRACTICE. WE ARE ALSO INTENDING TO CONTINUE TO COORDINATE WITH GRIFFIN ASSOCIATES ON TRAINING AS WELL AS ONGOING TOOL DESIGN AND RESOURCE AND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE. MYSELF, I WILL BE ATTENDING THE GRIFFIN HAMMIS RENDEZVOUS IN AUGUST THAT SARAH DISCUSSED, AND HOPEFUL OF GATHERING INFORMATION FROM OTHERS AROUND THE NATION AND ACTUALLY BEYOND THE NATION, AND BRINGING THOSE TOOLS AND RESOURCES AND IDEAS AND STRATEGIES BACK TO MISSOURI. LASTLY, THE DIVISION OF DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES IS WORKING IN TANDEM WITH MISSOURI VOCATIONAL REHABILITATION TO LOOK AT DEVELOPING SOME PILOT PROJECTS AROUND CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT WHERE WE WILL BE UTILIZING SOME EXISTING SERVICE STRUCTURES, BUT REALLY HELPING INDIVIDUALS IDENTIFY HOW WE CAN LAYER AND BRAID EFFORTS BETWEEN THE DIVISION OF DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES AND VOCATIONAL REHABILITATION. AND WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO BIANCA FARR WITH THE DIVISION OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH. >> HI, THIS IS BIANCA. FOR THE DIVISION OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, WE TRULY DO SEE THE VALUE IN CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT, AND HOPE THAT THROUGHOUT THIS SERIES, THAT YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO GRASP ON THE STRATEGIES, LOOKING AT JOB SEEKERS INTERESTS, PREFERENCES AND TALENTS TO DRIVE THE EMPLOYMENT PROCESS. AND THEN ALSO HONING IN ON SMALL BUSINESSES AND NATURAL SUPPORTS TO HELP THAT INDIVIDUAL BE SUCCESSFUL IN THEIR EMPLOYMENT. AT THIS POINT, WE'RE STILL EVALUATING OUR NEXT STEPS FOR CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO KEEP YOU POSTED. WE'LL MOVE ON TO REBECCA MAYNARD FROM VR. OH, I'M SORRY. MICHAEL ST. JULIEN. >> I THINK REBECCA'S NAME IS ACTUALLY UP THERE NEXT BUT IF SHE'S NOT READY, I'LL GO AHEAD AND START. WHY DON'T I GO AHEAD, MY NAME IS MICHAEL ST. JULIEN, REHABILITATION SERVICES FOR THE BLIND HERE IN MISSOURI. ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK IS IMPORTANT ABOUT CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT, CERTAINLY ABOUT REHABILITATION SERVICES FOR THE BLIND BEING A VOCATIONAL REHABILITATION AGENCY, SO MANY OF OUR SERVICES ARE INDIVIDUALIZED AND IT'S KIND OF INHERENT WITHIN OUR STRUCTURE IN TERMS OF DEVELOPMENT OF PLANS FOR EMPLOYMENT OR IN PARTICULAR OUR COMPREHENSIVE ASSESSMENT. ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS AN AGENCY MOVING FORWARD IS FOR CONTINUED TRAINING ON WORKING WITH OUR COUNSELORS ON THAT COMPREHENSIVE ASSESSMENT PIECE OR THE DISCOVERY PIECE FOR OUR CLIENTELE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MATCHING THE JOBS APPROPRIATELY AND REALLY, I THINK, THAT'S A BIG PART OF IT ON THE FRONT END, TO HELP MATCH THOSE JOBS TO THAT PERSON'S STRENGTH AND THEIR INTEREST AND CAPABILITIES, AND I THINK IF WE DO THAT, THEN WE'RE CERTAINLY GOING TO BE A LOT MORE SUCCESSFUL EVEN THAN WE HAVE BEEN ALREADY. WE WANT TO CONTINUE CERTAINLY TRAINING AND WORKING WITH OTHER AGENCIES IN PARTNERING WITH OTHER AGENCIES SUCH AS MB R AND D D TO CONTINUE TO BUILD STRATEGIES FOR THAT. I THINK ALSO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS THE USE OF ON-THE-JOB TRAINING OR DIFFERENT INCENTIVES FOR EMPLOYERS TO WORK WITH OUR CLIENTS, WHERE WE PROVIDE SERVICES SUCH AS ON THE JOB TRAINING, I THINK WE DON'T USE THAT ENOUGH, AND CERTAINLY IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO TO HELP EMPLOYERS GET THAT PERSON AND GET OUR CLIENTELE IN THE DOOR, SO I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO SEE USED IN TERMS OF HELPING US BUILD OUR STRUCTURE AND CAPACITY FOR CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT. >> THANK YOU, MICHAEL. AND WE WILL NOW TURN IT OVER TO KRISTIN FUNK WITH DIVISION OF WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. >> HI, DWAYNE. THIS IS KRISTIN FUNK WITH THE MISSOURI DIVISION OF WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, REPRESENTING MISSOURI JOB CENTERS. I'VE BEEN REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS TRAINING, AND I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN UTILIZE THIS, AND WHAT I REALLY LIKE IS THAT IT ADDRESSES PEOPLE WITH VARIOUS BARRIERS, SO REGARDLESS, SINCE WE SERVE A WIDE VARIETY OF PEOPLE, PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, WITHOUT DISABILITIES, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BARRIERS, WE CAN USE THESE TECHNIQUES TO HELP SERVE THEM. SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY GREAT. AND I LIKE JUST THE WAY THAT IT HELPS US PROVIDE UNIVERSAL ACCESS TO EMPLOYMENT AS A RESOURCE. AND I HOPE THAT WE DO HAVE MORE MOMENTUM WITH THIS AND WE CAN GET THE WORD OUT TO MORE OF OUR STAFF. I THINK IT WILL BE REALLY HELPFUL TO EVERYONE. SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE FUTURE. >> REBECCA MAYNARD HAD INTENDED TO PARTICIPATE IN TODAY'S CALL WITH VOCATIONAL REHABILITATION BUT SHE WAS UNEXPECTEDLY REQUIRED TO ATTEND A 511 WORKSHOP MEETING TODAY AND SO SHE DID WISH TO EXTEND HER APOLOGIES FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE, BUT AGAIN, VOCATIONAL REHABILITATION AS WELL AS EACH OF THE STATE AGENCIES WHO YOU'VE HEARD FROM TODAY ARE COMMITTED TO CONTINUING TO WORK TOGETHER AS INDICATED THROUGH OUR EFFORT WITH THIS EMPLOYMENT FIRST STATE LEADERSHIP MENTORING PROGRAM AND AGAIN, THIS IS OUR FOURTH YEAR WITH THESE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES. SO WITH THAT, I WILL GO AHEAD AND TURN IT BACK OVER TO YOU, JANET. JANET, CAN YOU ADDRESS MAX'S QUESTION ON WHEN AND WHERE COULD INDIVIDUALS ATTEND A RENDEZVOUS? >> YES. YOU'VE GOT TO PASS IT BACK TO ME. CAN YOU HEAR ME? THERE WE GO. OKAY. I THINK YOU CAN HEAR ME NOW. HI. YES, WELL, FIRST THANK YOU, THANK YOU, EVERYBODY , I THINK IT'S REALLY EXCITING WHAT'S HAPPENING IN MISSOURI AND IT'S A REALLY EXCITING TIME, AND YOU'VE GOT SUCH A GREAT STATE TEAM THAT'S SO ON BOARD WITH THIS, AND ON BOARD WITH NOT ONLY CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT BUT ALSO UNDERSTANDING THAT OTHER PIECE ABOUT BENEFITS, WHICH YOU ALL HAVE PROBABLY SEEN THE TRAINING ANNOUNCEMENT FOR. SO -- AND MAX, I WAS TRYING TO TYPE IN THE CHAT BOX AND IT WOULDN'T LET ME FOR SOME REASON, BUT THE RENDEZVOUS THAT PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED IS AN EVENT, IT'S ACTUALLY CALLED "THE BEST GO WEST." THE SHORT TITLE FOR IT IS "THE RENDEZVOUS." IT'S A FUNCTION THAT GRIFFIN HAMMIS ASSOCIATES SPONSORS EACH YEAR, IT'S HELD IN IDAHO, IT PULLS TOGETHER PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING SOME REALLY COOL WORK AROUND CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT, AND ALL DIFFERENT LEVELS. IT COULD BE STATE AGENCY LEVEL, LOCAL PROGRAM FOLKS, DB COUNCIL PEOPLE, VR, JUST A WHOLE MIX OF FOLKS. AND IT'S JUST A PLACE WHERE WE CAN KIND OF SHARE AND LEARN ABOUT CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT. IT IS AN INVITE-ONLY EVENT BECAUSE THERE'S PRETTY LIMITED SPACE BUT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED THAT DUANE IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO COME THIS YEAR AND LEARN AND TAKE BACK TO MISSOURI WHAT HE'S LEARNED. SO GOOD QUESTION THERE. I WANTED TO, TOO, LET ME SEE IF I CAN PULL IT FORWARD, IS JUST TO HAVE A LITTLE DISCUSSION. I KNOW IT'S HARD TO DO A DISCUSSION WITH SO MANY PEOPLE ON THE PHONE, BUT I THOUGHT IF WE USE THE Q & A BOX, I'M JUST GOING TO TRY THIS, I'D LIKE YOU TO GET READY TO TYPE, AND I JUST WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LIKE HOW LIKELY ARE YOU TO IMPLEMENT CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT WITHIN YOUR AGENCY. SO GO AHEAD AND TYPE IN YOUR RESPONSES IN THE Q & A BOX. WE'RE GOING TO TRY THIS. THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE YOU TO DO IS YOU'LL NOTICE THERE'S A WAY TO RAISE YOUR HAND. SO I'D LIKE FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE STARTED ON THIS AND EITHER HAVE STARTED SOME STEPS IN CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT OR HAVE SOME EXAMPLES TO SHARE, I'D LIKE YOU TO RAISE YOUR HAND AND WE CAN PASS THE MICROPHONE TO YOU AND TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING. SO I'M STARTING TO SEE SOME THINGS. I SEE A "VERY LIKELY," HOPING TO SEE MORE OF OUR PROVIDERS EMPLOYING CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT. GREAT. >> JANET, INDIVIDUALS WOULD HAVE TO TYPE THEIR COMMENTS IN THE Q & A BECAUSE IF THEY TALK FROM THEIR END, IT WON'T BE PART OF THE ARCHIVED RECORDING. >> OH, OKAY. SO TYPE IN. OKAY. >> AND YOU WILL JUST NEED TO ENSURE THAT YOU READ WHAT IS TYPED IN SO IT'S PART OF THE RECORDING. >> OKAY. I SEE SOMEBODY HAS THAT "I HAVE SEVERAL VERY CHALLENGING CLIENTS THAT I WOULD -- THAT WOULD BENEFIT FROM CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT PROCESS. ESPECIALLY IN RURAL AREAS." FOR SURE. FOR SOME REASON I'M ONLY SEEING A LITTLE BIT OF THE SCREEN SO I HAVE TO SCROLL. VERY LIKELY TO IMPLEMENT. I SEE A COUPLE OF "VERY LIKELYS," HOPING TO SEE MORE OF OUR PROVIDERS. I FEEL LIKE WE'RE ALREADY DOING COMPONENTS OF THE PROCESS IN A LESS STRUCTURED WAY. FOR SURE. >> JANET, TO THE LEFT OF THE Q & A, THERE'S A LITTLE TWIST TIE, AND YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE IT TO WHERE IT'S FULL SCREEN SO YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THE COMMENTS. AND YOU MAY HAVE TO CLOSE THE OTHER PANELS. >> I DON'T SEE THE TWIST TIE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. YES, FOR SURE -- I CAN SEE THEM SLOWLY. DEVELOPMENTAL CONNECTIONS WILL BE USING THIS PROCESS. SUPER. SUPER. SO WE'VE GOT SOME ENTHUSIASM AND SUPPORT HERE. LET ME ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION THEN. WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IN GETTING STARTED OR STAYING ON TRACK? AND THIS KIND OF LEADS TO THE NEXT QUESTION TOO IS, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE FROM YOUR MISSOURI EMPLOYMENT FIRST LEADERSHIP TEAM? MAYBE WE COULD COMBINE THOSE TWO QUESTIONS. WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IN GETTING STARTED AND STAYING ON TRACK, AND WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE FROM THE MISSOURI EMPLOYMENT FIRST LEADERSHIP TEAM? I SEE ANOTHER COMMENT, AN INDEPENDENT CENTER, WE FOLLOW THE IPS MODEL NICELY. I FEEL LIKE THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT -- I'M SORRY. WHEN I MOVE, I DON'T SEE IT ALL. SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT -- DUANE, COULD YOU READ THE QUESTIONS? I'M HAVING TROUBLE. >> THE INDEPENDENT CENTER HAD INDICATED THAT WE FOLLOWED THE IPS MODEL AND I FEEL THAT CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT TIES IN REALLY NICELY. I FEEL LIKE THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH THAT NEEDED THIS TYPE OF THINKING TO REALLY HELP THEM FIND THE RIGHT TYPE OF JOB. >> AWESOME. >> THEN PAM INDICATES ON SITE VISIT TO ASSESS EXISTING STRUCTURES AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON HOW TO IMPROVE THEM WOULD BE AN AREA FOR ONGOING ASSISTANCE AND SUPPORT. SANDY KAISER NOTED ONGOING TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, REGULAR CONSIDERATIONS TO ADDRESS HURDLES AND OBSTACLES, AND THEN MAX INDICATES "POSSIBLE INTERNAL COACHING." THERE WAS ALSO A QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT HOW THE PILOT SITES WERE CUSTOMIZEIZED EMPLOYMENT WILL BE IDENTIFIED. THAT WILL BE A JOINT EFFORT FEEN VOC REHAB AND DD, FOCUSING ON THOSE PROVIDERS WHO ARE WORKING IN BOTH FUNDING STREAMS THAT WERE PARTICIPANTS OF THIS WEBINAR SERIES. AND SO THE TWO STATE AGENCIES WILL CONTACTING POTENTIAL PROVIDERS FOR THOSE SITES. SOME OTHER FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE RECEIVED IS THAT FOR EFFORTS RELATED TO CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT AND EMPLOYMENT FIRST STATE LEADERSHIP TEAM WOULD BE -- INCREASED COORDINATION AND SHARED RESOURCES. AND THEN ALSO A GUIDEBOOK SO PROVIDERS KNOW IF THEY'RE FOLLOWING THE WAIVER DEFINITION STILL OR NOT, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT AT ALL AS PART OF THE WEBINAR SERIES, BUT MISSOURI HAS BEEN KIND OF LOOKING AT A NEW FIDELITY TOOL WHICH GRIFFIN HAMMIS HAS DEVELOPED AROUND IMPLEMENTATION OF CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT, AND JANET, DO YOU WANT TO TALK JUST A FEW MINUTES ABOUT THE FIDELITY TOOL AND KIND OF WHAT GRIFFIN HAMMIS IS DOING WITH THE FIDELITY TOOL? >> SURE. I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A BIT IN THE TRAINING, BUT TO BECOME AN EVIDENCE-BASED PRACTICE, THERE'S A CERTAIN PROCESS THAT HAS TO HAPPEN SO TSH THAT'S MORE RESEARCH-BASED. SO WHILE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK AROUND CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT THREA BEEN A LOT OF DEMONSTRATION PROJECTS, THERE'S BEEN A TON OF GREAT SUCCESS THAT'S BEEN DOCUMENTED, IT HASN'T NECESSARILY HAD THAT RESEARCH COMPONENT LIKE THERE HASN'T BEEN GROUPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO DO IS TO GET CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT AS AN EVIDENCE-BASED PRACTICE. AND CURRENTLY, THERE'S A DISCOVERY FIDELITY SCALE THAT'S BEEN DEVELOPED AND IS GOING THROUGH THE VIGOROUS PROCESS THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO BECOME AN EVIDENCE-BASED PRACTICE. SO I KNOW THAT INITIALLY THEY PULLED TOGETHER A LOT OF EXPERTS IN THE FIELD TO GET INPUT ON WHAT REALLY WERE THE KEY COMPONENTS OF DISCOVERY, THERE'S BEEN SOME -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY CALL IT, BUT THEY KIND OF SEND OUT THOSE COMPONENTS AND GET FEEDBACK AGAIN SEVERAL TIMES JUST ABOUT HOW THINGS ARE WORDED, AND THEY'RE RIGHT NOW DOING SOME FIELD TESTING IN CALIFORNIA TO GET SUPERVISORS TRAINED IN USING THE TOOL AS PART OF THAT PROCESS TO GET SOME FEEDBACK. SO THAT IS AVAILABLE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT COMPLETED YET, IT IS AVAILABLE IF PEOPLE WANT TO SEE -- IN FACT I THINK I PUT IT IN THE MATERIALS -- I CAN'T REMEMBER WHERE IF I PUT IT UNDER THE ONSET MATERIALS OR THE ADDITIONAL MATERIALS, I'LL MAKE SURE IT'S IN THERE FOR SURE. SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE CAN USE TO KIND OF GUIDE YOURSELVES, MAKING SURE THAT YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB. AND IT'S SIMILAR TO THE IPS FIDELITY SCALE IN THAT THERE'S A RATING SYSTEM, SO EACH ITEM IS RATED AND THE RATING SYSTEM IS BASICALLY LIKE A ZERO WOULD BE, THIS IS NOT CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT, 1 WOULD BE THIS IS ADEQUATE CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT, THIS IS REALLY GOOD CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT IS A 2, AND A 3 MIGHT BE THIS IS EXCEPTIONAL CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT. SO IT COULD BE USED AS A TOOL TO KIND OF KEEP YOU ON TRACK AND KEEP YOU ON COURSE. >> AND WHAT I'M GOING TO DO HERE REAL QUICKLY IS SHOW THE SURVEY RESULTS AND PRE AND POST-TEST RESULTS OF THIS WEBINAR SERIES. AND SO I BELIEVE ON THE SCREEN, INDIVIDUALS SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE SOME GRAPHS, THESE WOULD BE THE COMBINED SURVEY RESULTS THROUGHOUT THE WEBINAR SERIES AND ONSITE TRAINING. THE OVERALL IMPRESSION OF THIS TRAINING SERIES HAS BEEN VERY FAVORABLE, ALMOST 89% FELT IT'S BEEN EXCELLENT OR GOOD. WHEN SPEAKING ABOUT THE RELEVANCE OF THIS TO THEIR JOBS, YOU CAN SEE THAT 43% SEE THIS AS BEING VERY RELEVANT TO THEIR JOBS, AND 28 SEE IT LIKELY AS BEING RELEVANT TO THEIR JOBS. AND 29% AS SOMEWHAT RELEVANT TO THEIR JOBS. I FORGOT THE HOW TO DO IT MYSELF. THE LIKELIHOOD OF ADOPTING, YOU CAN SEE THAT 49% INDICATE THEY ARE LIKELY TO ADOPT WHAT THEY'VE LEARNED, 18% SAY THEY ARE VERY LIKELY, NOT JUST LIKELY BUT VERY LIKELY TO ADOPT IT. 32% SAY THAT THEY ARE SOMEWHAT LIKELY TO ADOPT, AND THEN ABOUT 2% DO NOT FEEL THAT THEY WOULD BE ADOPTING THE TRAINING OR THE TRAINING OR TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED. THEN AS FAR AS IMPLEMENTATION, NOT JUST ADOPTING THE PHILOSOPHY AND STRATEGIES BUT REALLY TRYING TO IMPLEMENT THE STRATEGIES. YOU CAN SEE THAT 14% FEEL THAT THEY ARE VERY LIKELY TO IMPLEMENT IT, 58% ARE LIKELY TO ADOPT IT, SO AGAIN, ABOUT 72% OF YOU ALL BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE LIKELY, VERY LIKELY TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THESE PRACTICES. AND AS FAR AS THE TRAINING ITSELF, 76% FELT THE LENGTH OF THE TRAINING AND CONTENT WAS APPROPRIATE. WE HAD ABOUT 10% FELT LIKE IT MAYBE SHOULD HAVE BEEN SLIGHTLY LONGER. OR EXCUSE ME, 11% SLIGHTLY LONGER, 10% SLIGHTLY SHORTER. AND THEN ABOUT 3% OF INDIVIDUALS FELT THAT IT WAS MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN NECESSARY. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE PRE AND POST-TEST RESULTS, WHAT YOU CAN SEE ACROSS THE BOARD IS THAT INDIVIDUALS, PARTICIPANTS, EACH OF YOU ALL, SHOWED A VERY SUBSTANTIVE INCREASE IN KNOWLEDGE AND AWARENESS AROUND CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT. EACH OF THE COLUMNS ARE THE TEST QUESTIONS THAT ARE RELATED TO EITHER THE WHAT IS CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT, WHAT THE OUTCOMES ARE OR WERE OF CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT, LOOKING AT THE ESSENTIAL ELEMENTS, WHAT JOB CREATION MEANT, HOW TO DELIVER DISCOVERY, LOOKING AT USE OF INFORMATIONAL INTERVIEWS, THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAT ONE SHOULD APPROACH FOR CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT, INFORMATION AROUND INFORMATIONAL INTERVIEWS AS PART OF JOB DEVELOPMENT, HOW TO GO ABOUT TARGETING OR WHO THE TARGET POPULATIONS WOULD IDEALLY IS THAT WOULD IDEALLY BENEFIT FROM CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT, AND THEN ALSO UNDERSTANDING AWARENESS ON THE USE OF REPRESENTATIONAL PORTFOLIOS. SO ACROSS THE BOARD, INDIVIDUALS SHOWED AN INCREASE IN KNOWLEDGE AND AWARENESS AND UNDERSTANDING, AND TOTAL AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, WE HAD NEARLY 100% OF INDIVIDUALS, ABOUT 90% COMPLETED THE POST-TEST WITH FULL ACCURACY. SO AGAIN, IT LOOKS LIKE IT HAS BEEN A VERY WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE FOR MANY OF YOU ALL. IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS TO IMPLEMENT AND ADOPT THESE PRACTICES. WE DEFINITELY FEEL LIKE WE HAVE SCALED PRACTICE TO A POINT IN MISSOURI AND THEY'VE ASKED US TO CONTINUE TO GROW IT AND HELP IT MOVE FORWARD. AND WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT BACK OVER TO JANET. >> OKAY. WITH THAT, WE'RE AT TIME. THANK YOU, DUANE, FOR SHARING THAT DATA. I THINK IT'S REALLY -- IT'S NICE FOR ME TO SEE FOR SURE. A HELP FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE. AGAIN, I APPLAUD YOU ALL FOR YOUR EFFORTS IN IMPLEMENTING CUSTOMIZED EMPLOYMENT, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING ABOUT THE THINGS THAT YOU ALL DO IN THE FUTURE. SO WE'RE JUST BEYOND TIME. I'M GOING TO SIGN OFF, BUT THANK YOU AGAIN, AND THANKS TO DUANE AND HEIKE FOR COORDINATING THE EVENTS HERE AND TO THE WHOLE EMPLOYMENT FIRST TEAM FOR COORDINATING THIS EFFORT. THANKS SO MUCH. HAVE A GREAT DAY.